Zen Talking

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Reddit Post: https://old.reddit.com/r/zen/comments/11u9jkf/measuring_tap_49_part_1_it_isnt_going_to_get_any/

Post Summary:

(49) Jingshan's dot Great Master Ma had Zhizang take a letter to Jingshan. (Yangshan: I don't know what news is in the letter.) Jingshan took the letter, opened it, and saw a circle. (Yangshan: What does it say?) He put a dot in the center. (Yangshan: He can't hold still.) When the National Teacher heard this mentioned, he said, "Jingshan was still confused by Master Ma." (Yangshan: This is a spirit recognizing a spirit, a thief recognizing a thief.)

Zen Teaching: Measuring Tap, by Zen Master Yuanwu

Post Cast Overview: Today's Podcast with Astroemi, KoanComentator, and Histoic,

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Reddit Post: https://www.reddit.com/r/zen/comments/11wc3tk/zazen_dogenism_is_inherently_racist_is_zen/

Post Summary: Dogen and Bodhidharma have some parallels, despite Zazen Dogenism being entirely incompatible.

Zen Teaching: Blue Cliff Record? Maybe? Gateless Checkpoint?

Post Cast Overview: What is the history of these two characters? What does a foreigner look like? How does a Buddha look? Ambiguity. Foreigners.

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Reddit Post: https://www.reddit.com/r/zen/comments/11v03po/translating_dahui_shobogenzo_case_512/

Post Summary:

One day the monk Nian asked Sheng "To call it a bamboo comb is to stir up feelings. To not call it a bamboo comb is to turn away. Combine the two and you will be finished."

Zen Teaching: Dahui's Shobogenzo

Post Cast Overview: Why throw a comb down the stairs? what is a comb? What's combing? What's Chinese? How to break a comb? Does a comb still comb and thus be a comb if you break it?

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Reddit Post: https://www.reddit.com/r/zen/comments/11j3asa/everybodys_enlightened_how_come_nobodys_meditating/

Post Summary: r/Zen religious troll claims "Zen Masters want you not to reject anything"… quotes Zen Master rejecting something as proof:

All the above have things they consider important where their infatuations lie. Lacking the qualities of great men of power to step back and recognize their error, they think of what they consider important as extraordinary, as wondrous and subtle, as peace and security, as the ultimate, as liberation.

Zen Teaching: Dahui's Original Shobogenzo… I think?

Post Cast Overview: What is Dahui saying? Does this prove that meditation is a good idea? Or just not a bad idea? Why is Dahui rejecting meditation in the text, when the r/Zen troll says "meditation shouldn't be rejected"? Sincerity. Getting down in the mud.

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Reddit Post: https://www.reddit.com/r/zen/comments/11rk5au/measuring_tap_displaying_the_sun_and_moon/

Post Summary:

47, Zhimen's straw sandals

A monk asked Zhimen, "What is Buddha?" (Better ask about a piece of dry crap.) Zhimen said, "Wearing out straw sandals, walking barefoot." (This is trailing mud and water.) The monk asked, "What is the task beyond Buddha?" (There has always been ascent and descent.) Zhimen said, "Displaying the sun and moon on the top of a staff." (Great Lord!) -Xuedou- Xuedou cited this and said, "It's easy to get a thousand soldiers, but it's hard to find a single general." (A son does not talk about his father's virtues.)

Zen Teaching: Measuring Tap by Yuanwu

Post Cast Overview: Line by line, break it down. Deceiving people. Trick revealed. Still a cool trick? Wumen's hat on a hat teaching, and his swinging a stick to strike the moon. Kim's Lama. Do Zen Masters know where they are going. Daniel Boon. Yogi Berra. Alice and the Queen. "The wide open sky".

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Reddit Post: https://www.reddit.com/r/zen/comments/11qy7tr/buddhahood/

Post Summary: What is original Buddhahood? That's the whole post.

Zen Teaching: All over the place

Post Cast Overview: What's self? What is identity?

Who gets to say?

Doctrine v/s Observation.

Observing self is observing what, exactly? Identity, culture, gender, sex, accents.

Where are you going with this?

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Reddit Post: https://www.reddit.com/r/zen/comments/11rbrdc/what_enlightenment_is_really_like/

Post Summary:

Mingben said,

"What it's really like is Xiangyan hearing a stone strike a hollow stalk of bamboo;

Zen Teaching: Mingben's Illusionary Man! First translated on r/Zen!

Post Cast Overview: It's three people. I'm in the middle of a move. It's the bottom of the barrel here people, in terms of clerical work.

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Reddit Post: /r/zen/the_hidden_treasure

Post Summary: The Great Master Yunmen said, "All across heaven and earth and throughout the entire universe, there is a treasure at the center of it all, hidden, within it's own body. It raises aloft a lantern toward the Buddha within the Hall and places the three gates onto the top of the lamp."

Zen Teaching: It's either Yunmen's Record by Urs App or Dahui's Shobogenzo... those are my guesses!

Post Cast Overview: Histoic and Astro

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Zen is not tolerant and peaceful. There are a number of enemies that Zen Masters are eager to challenge:

1. Fakers who aren't enlightened but want people to think they are

• Dongshan questions the head monk to death

2.People who practice a religion of ideas instead of personal experience

• Elder Ting on the Bridge.

3. People who believe in an doctrine of Truth aka Revelation (Buddhists, Dogenists, new agers)

• Huangbo: Because in truth there is no unalterable Dharma which the Tathagata could have preached. People of our sect would never argue that there could be such a thing.

4. Psychological, Philosophical, Metaphysical servitude, subservience.

• Foyan: I will not allow people to oppress the free.

5. Pillars and Monks (just because Yunmen)

When Master Yunmen saw a monk come to visit him, he struck a blow on a pillar and said, "You came in here to deceive me!" On behalf of the monk he answered, " [Lucky me] he only hit the pillar." Master Yunmen whacked the monk and said, "Letting off steam for other people's benefit."

Zen Teaching: Record of Tung-shan, Instant Zen, Zen and Zen Classics, Master Yunmen: From the Record of.

Post Cast Overview: Enemies… Frenemies… Wumen… xx

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Reddit Post: https://www.reddit.com/r/zen/comments/11jm4xo/to_seek_is_to_deviate/

Post Summary:

Zhaozhou asked Nanquan, "What is the Way?" Nanquan answered, "Your ordinary mind, that is the Way." Zhaozhou said, "Does it go in any par­ticular direction?'' Nanquan replied, "The more you seek after it, the more it runs away." Zhaozhou: "Then how can you know it is the Way?" Nanquan: "The Way does not belong to knowing or not knowing. Knowing is illusion. Not knowing is lack of discrimination. When you get to this unperplexed Way, it is like the vastness of space, an unfathomable void, so how can it be this or that, yes or no?" Upon this Zhaozhou came to a sudden realization.

Zen Teaching: Dahui's Original Shobogenzo

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