Derick Varn is back this week to discuss a historic debate between James Baldwin and William F. Buckley that took place at Cambridge University in 1965. For those of you who don’t know, James Baldwin was a literary giant who wrote works such as Notes of a Native Son and No Name in the Street and William F. Buckley was the renowned founder and editor of the National Review along with being a columnist and television interviewer on his program Firing Line. The topic Baldwin and Buckley debated in 1965 was Is the American Dream at the Expense of the American Negro. You’ll find a link to a video of the debate in this week’s show notes.

I should also point out that, at the end of this episode, Derick Varn and I agree to have our own debate sometime in the future. Given how old this recording is, that debate should be coming up soon.

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