Zombie Book Club

We’re recording from a hotel bed at The Saguaro Palm Springs, hungover, sun-sensitive, and happy, after driving cross-country from Vermont for our friends Eric and Joe’s wedding. Zombie stories keep telling us the same thing: the monsters are never the point, the survivor group is. The wedding felt like proof, a tight-knit chosen family where everyone looked after each other. We briefly discuss why community beats rugged individualism, and the rare superpower that holds a group together: making someone feel like the most important person in the room and meaning it. Then we ask how you build that where you already live, one friendship at a time. If you want more of Eric, he joined us earlier to zombie-proof a house Home Alone-style.

Then we thought about the hotel as a survival haven: bars on every floor, a courtyard of silent ballet in sleepwear that might be a cult, and real bunker potential.

Relevant Links

Where We Recorded

• The Saguaro Palm Springs: https://www.thesaguaro.com/palmsprings

Eric’s Previous Episode

• Home Alone in the Zombie Apocalypse with special guest EricLloydDesigns | Ep 75: https://www.buzzsprout.com/2124392/episodes/16317584-home-alone-in-the-zombie-apocalypse-with-special-guest-ericlloyddesigns-zombie-book-club-ep-75

Road Trip and Progress

• Road Trip on the Bad Road | Ep 167: https://www.buzzsprout.com/2124392/episodes/19855230-road-trip-on-the-bad-road-zombie-book-club-ep-167
• Midwest Road Trip Update | Ep 169: https://www.buzzsprout.com/2124392/episodes/19922196-midwest-road-trip-update-zombie-book-club-ep-169

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We’re recording from the least glamorous studio imaginable: a camper bed in Kansas, in full “dead bug pose,” while tornadoes, flooding, and rerouted travel plans turn the Midwest into a live weather report. Two weeks into our road trip, we’re tired enough to be incoherent and honest about it. We dig into what RV campground life is really like, from a party-heavy New York park with live music and string lights to a Kansas RV park full of oil field workers living there short-term because it’s the only affordable option.

Then comes the best stop so far: friends in Missouri. We attended a pride event, Leah got a tarot reading that wasn't so great, “tactical furries” that braved the Missouri heat, and a movie night with the low-budget apocalypse comedy Bored Games. We also talk about travel tattoos, including a Kansas piece inspired by pioneering tattoo artist Maud Wagner, and finish with a practical writing corner on beta readers, readability, and the eternal struggle of commas in dialogue. 

Links

• Maud Wagner, Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maud_Wagner
• Bored Games, IMDB: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt31851933/
• Ozark PrideFest: https://ozarkspridefest.com/

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What if the apocalypse isn't a sudden event, but the slow breakdown of the systems we depend on to survive? In this episode, we look at what climate collapse could mean for ordinary people by 2050: failed crops, flooded roads, extreme heat, wildfire smoke, and a power grid that can't keep up. We dig into the 1.5°C target, climate tipping points, and the quiet loss of predictable seasons, then ask why, if this is a crisis, we're all still living like it's a normal Tuesday.

Imagine Dan and Leah at 66 and 67 on a Vermont hilltop, with a well, aging solar panels, and a roof that needs replacing. Survival depends less on grit and more on medicine, repairs, supply chains, and other people. That brings us to community resilience and mutual aid, why rugged individualism is a myth, and the hard truth that renewable energy has to come with consuming less. It's dark, sometimes grimly funny, and it ends with one question: what do you hope the humans in our 2050 climate-apocalypse movie have figured out?

Links:

• WHO, Climate Change and Health: https://www.who.int/health-topics/climate-change
• 2024 State of the Climate report (BioScience): https://academic.oup.com/bioscience/article/74/12/812/7808595
• Climate Vulnerability Index map (U.S. only): https://map.climatevulnerabilityindex.org/map/cvi_overall/usa
• Futurism, UN failure to stop severe climate change: https://futurism.com/science-energy/united-nations-failed-stop-severe-climate-change
• NPR, UN climate change threshold: https://www.npr.org/2026/09/02/g-s1-141595/united-nations-climate-change-threshold

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Zombie Book Club is hitting the bad road for real. Dan and Leah are heading cross-country in their camper to a wedding in Palm Springs, with senior dog Ziggy, Rod Zombie riding shotgun, tiny chaos agents Lil D and Harmony Bear. They break down the route, the remote-work realities of camper life (antennas, solar, lithium batteries), and how they'll keep the podcast alive with bulk recording and shorter road updates.

Along the way, the road trip opens the door to bigger conversations: growing up with casual homophobia, reclaiming "gay" as joy, and the legend of Fairy Jane, the traveling doll who vanished at a festival. Plus, the annual Zombie Ween game show is becoming a cooperative, tabletop RPG-style "Giving Ween," with listeners helping decide who shines. 

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Dan got his zombie novella, The Bad Road, back from a beta reader with thousands of tracked edits and lived to talk about it. We talk through the real, unglamorous mechanics of revision; accepting changes one at a time and building the instinct to write clean sentences from the start. We talk about why feedback stings, why "genius" is a myth, and why taking ego out of the equation is what actually turns a decent draft into a publishable book.

Relevant links:

• ZBC Epizode 16 "Let's talk about writing": https://www.buzzsprout.com/2124392/episodes/13412031
• The Bad Road playlist: https://tidal.com/playlist/0bc984a4-381f-43af-b416-715d7d4f6e50

Resources Dan should have read:

• Beta readers 101: https://blog.reedsy.com/beta-reader/
• Dialogue punctuation rules: https://www.chicagomanualofstyle.org/qanda/data/faq/topics/Punctuation.html
• Editor vs. proofreader, explained: https://kindlepreneur.com/book-editor-vs-proofreader/
• What ARC readers are and how to use them: https://kindlepreneur.com/arc-readers/

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Bestselling zombie author Kate L. Mary returns to the podcast to talk through what a realistic survival plan might actually look like, how you'd know it's really happening, and why a slow, confusing outbreak is scarier than the instant-chaos version we usually see in movies. We talk about getting family together, avoiding major roads and cities, and heading for the coast to escape by sailboat.

From there, we get into the practical side of life at sea: what a boat actually needs to function long-term (fresh water, fuel, navigation without GPS), why the Caribbean (specifically Grenada) is Kate's pick for a long-term destination. We also touch on how her experience writing apocalyptic fiction shapes the way she thinks through these scenarios.

Guest Links:

• Website: katelmary.com
• Facebook: facebook.com/KateLMaryauthor
• Instagram: @zombieauthormom
• Amazon Author Page: amazon.com/Kate-L-Mary/e/B00K48N5EQ

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We sit down with award-winning author A.M. Geever to talk Steel City Apocalypse, a slow-burn outbreak story that traps its survivors inside a Pittsburgh zoo built to keep dangerous animals in (and, as it were, zombies out). We talk about plotting with evolving outlines, killing your darlings (scenes and characters alike), sunk cost, and why denial is the most realistic thing about the zombie apocalypse.

A.M. Geever also opens up about indie author life in 2026; release-day anxiety, watching sales rankings, Kindle Unlimited economics, and the treadmill feeling of shifting ad platforms and constant promotion. We talk about building emotionally rich animal characters, writing characters with real interiority, and why the zombie genre keeps giving writers permission to set their own rules while still forcing brutal moral choices. If you love post-apocalyptic fiction and unfiltered behind-the-scenes author talk, this one delivers both.

Contact Info & Links

A.M. Geever

• Website: amgeever.com
• Instagram: @amgeever
• Facebook: A.M. Geever Author
• Goodreads: goodreads.com/amgeever
• BookBub: bookbub.com/profile/anne-m-geever
• Amazon Author Page: amazon.com/stores/author/B07VFBKX53

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At 17, illustrator Yuxel "Green Mann" G. has already built a distinct style out of zombies, gore, and dark humor. We talk about the childhood moment that turned fear into fascination, growing up during the Walking Dead era, and the artists (Tony Moore, Jhonen Vasquez, Aaron Alexovich) who shaped his eye for art that's equal parts creepy and charming. 

Then we talk about making art in the age of AI, why "exposure" isn't payment, and how pricing commissions is really about respecting your own labor.

Contact Links:

• GreenMann
  • Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/grnnann
  • BlueSky: https://bsky.app/profile/grnnann.bsky.social
  • TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@grnnann

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Jo Salazar is back to celebrate the biggest twist in her writing career: her self-published zombie novel The Dead Weight has been acquired by Sourcebooks Fire and relaunches as If We Survive the Night on August 25th. We talk through the wild, one-DM-at-a-time path from indie hustle to a traditional book deal, what changes (and doesn't) when a title and cover get a makeover, and why a title matters when a reader is deciding in seconds. Jo also opens up about building an audience through TikTok and Amazon ads, the realities of author marketing even after landing a publisher, and the Walmart special edition bonus chapter that finally answers fans' burning 'riverboat casino' question.

Then we surprise Jo with two of her biggest inspirations in the genre: Kate L. Mary and Sarah Lyons Fleming. The three dig into mentorship, community, and what it's like to write through anxiety and real-world horror without losing the joy of storytelling. They also talk candidly about how women have reshaped zombie fiction away from the lone-wolf (mighty-whitey) power fantasy and toward stories built on relationships, found family, and emotional stakes. It's part reunion, part masterclass, and part long-overdue celebration of an author who earned every bit of this moment.


Guest Contact & Social Links

Jo Salazar

• Website: https://www.josalazarwriting.com/
• Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/_jo_salazar_/
• Linktree (all links): https://linktr.ee/josalazarauthor

Kate L. Mary

• Website: https://katelmary.com
• Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/zombieauthormom/
• Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KateLMaryauthor
• BookBub: https://www.bookbub.com/profile/kate-l-mary

Sarah Lyons Fleming

• Website: https://www.sarahlyonsfleming.com/
• Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/SarahLyonsFleming/
• Amazon storefront: https://www.amazon.com/stores/Sarah-Lyons-Fleming

Other links referenced in the episode:

• Publisher
  • Sourcebooks Fire: https://www.sourcebooks.com
• Our Town Books (Jacksonville, IL — release party host / signed preorders)
  • Website: https://www.ourtownbooks.com/
  • Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ourtownbooks/
  • Bookshop.org storefront: https://bookshop.org/shop/ourtownbooks

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The open, weird, human internet you grew up on is dead, and most of us kept scrolling like nothing happened. From Web 1.0's personal sites and forums to today's "narrow web" of a handful of platforms, the internet had changed is big ways that shift ownership from the people to a handful of greedy tech billionaires. We talk about dead internet theory and the real Cloudflare data showing bots now generate more web traffic than humans for the first time ever. Then we take a look at Moltbook, the real forum where only AI agents can post while humans just watch. We also discuss what the current state of the internet is doing to our nervous systems, leaving us feeling wired but numb.

What are people doing about it? Flip phone summer, digital minimalism, and rebuilding elsewhere through the small web, the IndieWeb, and the Fediverse (Mastodon, Pixelfed, PeerTube, Lemmy). No path fully fixes the internet, but are worth knowing about if you've felt the burnout too.

Relevant Links

What the Internet Used To Be / The Narrow Web

• The Narrow Web (Leon Furze): https://leonfurze.com/2025/07/13/the-narrow-web/
• The Indie Web, The Boring Web, Web Rings (Medium): https://medium.com/@gotkoin3/the-indie-web-the-boring-web-web-rings-e4a4355e8944

Dead Internet Theory

• Dead Internet theory (Wikipedia): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Internet_theory
• Sam Altman Says He's Suddenly Worried Dead Internet Theory Is Coming True (Futurism): https://futurism.com/sam-altman-dead-internet-theory
• Bot web traffic has overtaken human web traffic, data shows (NBC News): https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/bot-web-traffic-overtaken-human-web-traffic-data-shows-rcna348522

Zombie Internet / Moltbook

• OpenClaw's AI assistants are now building their own social network (TechCrunch): https://techcrunch.com/2026/01/30/openclaws-ai-assistants-are-now-building-their-own-social-network/
• Top AI leaders are begging people not to use Moltbook (Fortune): https://www.fortune.com/2026/02/02/moltbook-security-agents-singularity-disaster-gary-marcus-andrej-karpathy
• Moltbook (Wikipedia): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moltbook

How It Feels Now

• Digital Detox 2026: Life Hacks to Reclaim Your Brain (Citipen): https://citipen.com/digital-detox-life-hacks-2026/
• Flip Phone Summer (Brainstamped): https://brainstamped.com/digital-wellness/guides/flip-phone-summer-gen-z-digital-detox-movement-2026/
• Smartphone screen time reduction improves mental health: a randomized controlled trial (BMC Medicine): https://bmcmedicine.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12916-025-03944-z

Strategy A: Rebuild Civilization Behind the Walls

• Small Web (The Paper Pilot): https://paperpilot.dev/garden/small-web
• What is the 'Indie Web' and the Web Revival Movement? (HOUDINI Magazine): https://houdinimagazine.com/articles/2026-01-21-what-is-the-web-revival-movement
• Small web, IndieWeb, Gemini... A guide to the retro-web (Kevin Boone): https://kevinboone.me/web-adjacent.html
• Kagi brings its 'small web' of a human-only internet to mobile devices (TechCrunch): https://techcrunch.com/2026/03/17/kagi-small-web-human-authored-indie-internet-mobile-ios-android-devices/
• What Is the Fediverse? (SocialRails): https://socialrails.com/social-media-terms/fediverse
• The Fediverse in Numbers: Latest Stats on Mastodon and Decentralized Social Media (2026) (Fediview): https://fediview.com/articles/fediverse-in-numbers-mastodon-stats-2026/
• An evidence-based and critical analysis of the Fediverse decentralization promises (arXiv): https://arxiv.org/abs/2408.15383
• The Fediverse Is Growing (elest.io): https://blog.elest.io/the-fediverse-is-growing-why-decentralized-social-media-matters-in-2026/

Strategy B: Leave the Matrix

• Best Dumbphones (2026) (Vice): https://www.vice.com/en/via/best-dumb-phones/
• Digital Detox Trends 2026: What's Driving the Shift? (Accio): https://www.accio.com/business/digital_detox_trends

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