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Dr. Andreas Fahlman, senior researcher for the Oceanographic Foundation in Valencia Spain shares insights into the respiratory physiology and behavior of offshore and coastal bottlenose dolphins. In addition to significant size differences between these two distinct populations from the same species of dolphin, the larger offshore type has been observed routinely diving to depths of 1000m, whereas the much smaller near shore animals rarely venture beyond depths of 10m. His research to date suggests the diving reflex in marine mammals, a phenomena observed for decades, is actually far more complex than first described. Dr. Fahlman says the passion and skills of the professional animal trainer are a vital tool for researchers engaged in scientific efforts to understand animal physiology and behavior in human care. Such understanding is important because it can lead to the development of new and innovative methods for collecting, designing, and validating data observed from wild populations.

With the 2109 hurricane season underway, we talk with the program manager for the ZAHP Fusion Center, Dr Yvonne Nadler. Funded by the USDA, the center is a repository for best practices and information designed to assist all (i.e., AZA, ZAA, independent) zoological animal facilities with their disaster preparedness and emergency response planning for natural and manmade events like wild land fires, storms, flooding and zoonotic diseases.

Rachel Garner of http://whyanimalsdothething.com returns with a legislative update on the new bill HR 4211 and its harmful implications for all zoos and aquariums.

Plus, That Sounds Wild: siamang. Peter Giljam www.Zoospensefull.com.

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Founded in 1996 in hopes of reuniting one killer whale with her wild cousins, the Orca Conservancy today is focused on preserving the endangered population of Southern Resident Killer Whales (SRKW) that frequent the waters around Seattle and Vancouver part of the year. It's this steadfast mission to prevent the SRKW from extinction that put the Orca Conservancy at odds recently with a well-publicized plan by the Whale Sanctuary Project to build in SRKW waters, a permanent whale holding facility for orcas of mostly Icelandic descent that were born and currently reside in zoos and aquariums.

Orca Conservancy president Shari Tarantino describes the organization's work to save the SRKW by also preserving the endangered chinook salmon, as well as restoring the river and ocean habitats that both species depend upon for their survival.

This episode's honest and at times difficult conversation between an anti-captivity leader and a former orca trainer and podcast host shows their perspectives have much in common, especially when it comes to saving SRKW and restoring healthy marine ecosystems.

1:20 History of Orca Conservancy. Reuniting Lolita/Tokitae.

31:00 The OC blog post heard round the marine mammal world

1:03:30 That Sounds Wild

That Sounds Wild: Killer Whale vocal imitation. Courtesy www.SeaWorld.com and Hubbs Research. (Crance, J.L., A.E. Bowles, and A. Garver. 2014. Evidence for vocal learning in juvenile male killer whales, Orcinus orca, from an adventitious cross-socializing experiment. Journal of Experimental Biology 217: 1229-1237.)

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We are onsite with the three founders of the Phoenix Herpetological Society to discuss their passion for rescuing animals in need, conserving endangered species, and educating the public about all kinds of ectotherms from cobras to crocodiles. PHS' mission is to "promote conservation and preservation of native and non-native reptiles through education, rehabilitation, rescue, and relocation." From its humble start, PHS now cares for over 1000 animals and boasts several firsts such as "Mr. Stubbs," an American alligator with the first ever prosthetic (tail) for a reptile.

According to www.Phoenixherp.com, PHS was founded in 2001 by three long-time, passionate reptile enthusiasts with a vision to make a difference for reptiles in the state of Arizona. There were plenty of organizations to rescue many species of animals from dogs and cats to birds. However, there was no such facility or refuge for unwanted or rescued reptiles. Reptile owners had no outlet to relinquish ownership if needed nor was there a resource to acquire accurate, reliable information on the care and husbandry of reptiles as pets. In addition, native and non-native species were being destroyed by state facilities and other animal rescue agencies solely due to lack of knowledge regarding care and housing of these amazing creatures – native and exotic. In response, the Phoenix Herpetological Society (PHS) was launched. PHS services have grown over the years from solely taking in unwanted reptile pets to rattlesnake removal, rattlesnake removal training, helping take in and reunite lost and found reptiles, working with law enforcement agencies for illegal or confiscated animals, and even helping special needs reptiles.

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We return to the Phoenix Zoo to discuss their collaborative work to save another endangered species, the Mexican Gray Wolf, which as recently as the early 1970's came within a handful of remaining founder animals from being deliberately exterminated across the West and Mexico. Senior carnivore keeper, Carl Mohler describes how caring for a social group pf predators that may one day be introduced to the wild is very different from other species found in zoos and aquariums. The relationships of trust that naturally form between keepers and most zoo animals is not only discouraged, it can place the animals at greater risk. As a result of the need to discourage theses wolves from habituating to humans, routine veterinary care, husbandry, and servicing of exhibits can present challenges compared to other species in a zoo. Even forms of enrichment must be disguised and utilize natural items the animals won't associate with human activities.

That Sounds Wild: Mexican Gray Wolves

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Host of the viral videos television show Right This Minute (www.RightThisMinute.com), Gayle Bass reminisces about how her early career experiences such as an intern, a film critic, and a radio reporter led to her role as one of the original hosts of RTM, now starting its 9th season. As a huge fan of wild and domestic animals, and having met many animal ambassadors throughout her media career, Gayle shares some unique insights from years of scouring the Internet in search of the next video to go viral. Plus, she and Grey share memories of their earliest radio and TV segment mishaps together with animals.

Children's book author Faith Goldstein, author of the new picture book, Gorilla's Night Out (www.indigoriverpublishing.com/product/gorillas-night-out/), talks about how her experiences as a kindergarten teacher and a mom helped her write a book that would appeal to 5 year olds.

Plus, an all new That Sounds Wild: Crested Screamer. Thanks to Wildlife World Zoo, Aquarium & Safari Park www.wildlifeworld.com.

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The 1970's was a decade of unparalleled exploration far above and below the sea. From astronauts driving on the moon and unmanned probes collecting data on the outer planets to piercing the deepest oceans in new submersibles, scientists and engineers achieved some of the greatest feats in human history. One such pioneer, Dr. Sylvia Earle is an ocean scientist and engineer, policymaker and conservationist, and best of all, a record-setting deep sea explorer whose work over 60 years places her in the company of Cook, Piccard, Cousteau, Ballard, and more recently, Cameron.

Dr Earle has spent thousands of hours under the sea as an aquanaut, as a pilot of over 30 different submersibles, and as a researcher studying marine animals and plants. In 1979 she set the individual record for deepest dive in a JIM suit at 400m. In addition, she has served as Chief Scientist for www.NOAA.gov.

Through the company she founded, www.DOERMarine.com, she collaborated on the development of submersibles and remotely operated vehicles.

Thanks to an initial award from the TED organization about ten years ago (https://www.ted.com/talks), Dr. Earle launched the Mission Blue Foundation to help people, organizations, and governments around the world form ocean sanctuaries she calls "Hope Spots." There are well over 100 Hope Spots underway today.

Dr. Earle continues to consult on ocean issues including major events like the Deep Water Horizon spill in the Gulf of Mexico, and she travels globally and speaks frequently about the need to preserve the oceans, its biodiverse lifeforms, complexity, chemistry, and health.

That Sounds Wild: Sea Lions. https://www.oceansoffun.org

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As part of its work to support research and conservation of marine mammals, the National Marine Mammal Foundation (www.NMMF.org) has been working with many diverse stakeholders to study, preserve, and increase awareness of the world's most endangered marine mammal, an elusive porpoise found only in the far northern Gulf of California known as the vaquita. Their story is featured in a new documentary Sea Of Shadows (www.SeaofShadows.film) by executive producer, Leonardo DiCaprio (www.LeonardoDiCaprio.com) and www.NatGeo.com documentary films.

The documentary highlights the inextricable link for survival that human activities have forged between two endangered species, the vaquita and a fish known as the totoaba, prized for its swim bladder. describes recent efforts by conservation groups, scientists, and the military to save the critically endangered vaquita. Thursday's Zoo Logic guest is one of the film's participants, NMMF executive director, Dr. Cynthia Smith.

Plus Tell me something I don't know about animals by Dr. Lara Croft: manatee facts.

And That Sounds Wild: dolphin clicks

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Previous Zoo Logic interview with NOAA scientist and vaquita expert, Dr. Barbara Taylor:

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/dont-be-shy-legacy-panda-looking-porpoise-called-vaquita/id1385908352?i=1000416150166

Animal welfare science is a relatively new discipline that has generated some degree of debate among scientists, policymakers, animal professionals, animal rights activists, and the public. Even the meaning of the term animal welfare has been cause for scientific and public debate in part because the conversation often includes qualities such as emotions normally associated with humans being applied to animals. Dr. Isabella Clegg shares her work assessing the welfare of dolphins living in human care, describes the difficulty that language can present when discussing animal welfare, and explains why a simple experiment can demonstrate whether an animal can be considered an optimist or a pessimist.

David Kleven, long time zoological educator and president of Animal Care Software talks about the importance of great animal record-keeping. His Animal Care Software enables zoological, domestic, rescue, and farm animal professionals to utilize today's mobile and cloud technology to record, share, search, and analyze in real time individual animal observations, photos, health, behavior and welfare data. www.AnimalCareSoftware.com.

Long time animal ambassador, conservationist and past Zoo Logic guest, Julie Scardina shares a new Something I Don't Know About Animals. https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/julie-scardina-conservationist-trainer-author/id1385908352?i=1000414292200

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In addition to the dramatic declines in charismatic species most people are aware of, research over the past few years suggests we are facing a potential extinction event for insects. This week's episode features www.mongabay.com frequent contributor, environmental writer Jeremy Hance, to discuss his recent 4-part series on the insect extinction situation based on interviews he's conducted with dozen's of entomologists from around the globe. Jeremy discusses potential root causes such as over use of pesticides, climate change, and human over-population. As we continue to wrestle with the substantial loss of higher order species over the past 50 years, what will the earth look like with the added burden of significantly lower insect biodiversity and abundance? What impact will lower insect numbers have on the species that are dependent upon them, including humans? And, how does improved education and access to health care offer a way forward?

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Plus, Tell me something I don't know about animals with Dr. Jeff Boehm, CEO of the Marine Mammal Center. www.marinemammalcenter.org

That Sounds Wild: Addax. Thanks Peter Giljam www.zoospensefull.com.

Fresh water dolphins like the Amazon River Dolphin face a myriad of challenges including human encroachment and habitat loss, pollution, the damming of river systems, and poaching.

The Amazon River Dolphin Conservation Foundation www.ARDCF.org supports local efforts to protect a storied species and its rainforest ecosystem. ARDCF founder and director, Suzanne Smith discusses what she describes as healthy, natural interactions between dolphins and people that protect both animals and people, sustain local culture, and transform visitors to ardent Amazon conservationists. These interactions represent a small scale effort to preserve the Amazon River dolphin through the use of platforms where free ranging wild dolphins get a few kilos of supplemental fish from platform operators while visitors learn about and can observe the animals for a few minutes. The platforms are remote, highly regulated, and provide an income for the families that operate them. If the animals aren't becoming habituated to humans or dependent on a free snack, could this be a one region's way to prevent river dolphin extinction? As we've heard on previous episodes, when it comes to conservation strategies that work, one size does not fit all. And, while uncontrolled (and illegal) public feeding of wild dolphins is a serious problem in the US that harms or kills wildlife, these platform interactions might just be a way forward to help preserve river dolphins in the remotest parts of Brazil.

Building upon the wisdom of Amazon traditions, practices and beliefs with findings from modern conservation biology, Amazon River Dolphin Conservation Foundation works to preserve the river dolphin from the corrosive pressures that threaten the survival of the dolphins and their world.

Plus our first "Tell me something I don't know about animals" with former guest, Barbara Heidenreich.

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That Sounds Wild: baby jaguar. www.wildlifeworld.com

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