Ginger talks to Dr. Ben Abo. He is a paramedic and EMS physician. He's been on the Ted stage. He's the medical director for Miami-Dade Fire Rescue's Venom response teams. He's a fellow in the Academy of Wilderness Medicine. He's saved a stranger who collapsed on train tracks. He's an international man of mystery and in this episode, we will talk about none of that.

Instead, Ginger reached out to him because she wanted to make an episode about the use of humor in emergency medicine. Ever since the first day she saw a picture of him in scrubs in the ER talking on a banana phone, she knew he would be the one to teach us what I need to know about when, where and how to use humor in medicine.