In this episode, Julie Rubenstein, the co-founder and Style Consultant from Fox and Hanger, and Savannah Hauk, author of the "Living with Crossdressing" book series, continue to tackle the technical difficulties of starting a podcast without any pre-existing skills. Along the way, they find time to talk about Savannah's favorite Starbucks drink, her love for the baristas who have embraced her, the irony of Julie's daughter wondering why  "trans" is such a big deal, and their combined hope that the next generation's outlook on the LGBTQ+ community will affect permanent change away from a counter culture.