This week, Kayte and Jay discuss two books about the relationship between capitalism, the meat industry, and the exploitation of both human and non-human animals. We also talk about how people involved with cannibal media keep going vegetarian: Guillermo del Toro, Bryan Fuller, Agustina Bazterrica, and now Kayte!

Tender is the Flesh by Agustina Bazterrica

Meat Love: An Ideology of the Flesh by Amber Husain

Clip at the end from Episode 01 of John Berger's Ways of Seeing

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Art by Anya R. Hueing

Music by @coffin_flops