Tim Ayers joins us this week on Between Sundays, along with special guest host Emily O’Connor! We talk about Tim’s message this weekend on Hagar, Ishmael, and “El Roi” – the God who sees me (29:40). Tim explains why Ishmael is not the father of the Arabs (38:30), how he redeemed the phrase “wild donkey” (44:30), and how this sermon had a deep, personal impact on Tim’s life (48:00). Later, we have a short session of Ask Tim Anything (1.13)! Thanks for listening!