A different kind of episode. One of my secrets to living beyond fine, and the thread across all the experts and conversations I’ve had this season - is community. On this episode, you’ll hear me chat with two of my oldest friends, Diviya Mathai and Dilya Baz, where we talk about what has kept us friends for 30 years and counting.

What we think the secret is to keeping lifelong friendships and starting new friendships

What we think about “busy-ness” when it comes to friendship

How to make adjustments for friendship in busy seasons and transitions in life

A juicy moment where we realize our friendships are infallible and human

If you are interested in learning more about the It's FINE. community, visit www.rachelvarkey.com or follow Rachel on Instagram at @rachelvarkey.