Today, I am talking to Katherine Morgan Schafler the author of THE PERFECTIONIST’S GUIDE TO LOSING CONTROL. In her words, Katherine works with people who can present really well, seem completely put together when they want to be, and whose problems are not immediately apparent to others. 

On this episode, we’ll talk about: 

Katherine’s reframe on what perfectionism means to her - and how different it may look to mainstream media 

The five perfectionist personas and the pros/cons of each 

A universal thing we all do to deny ourselves of our right to joy