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This week we have drummer of Gel and engineer at Noise War Studios, Zach Miller on to discuss the Blink 182 record Enema of the State. This episode we discuss: Central Jersey bands, pay to play shows, snare sounds, the yellow Xterra, mixing on blown speakers, Topper, abusing student loans, Gel goes to Europe, locking your keys in your car, stealing, Matt Skiba, Travis Barker, favorite Enema of the State songs, Machine Gun Kelly, open source hardcore and so much more.

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