Recorded on:10th of February, 2025

Location:Melbourne, Victoria.

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Poem:

A Note to the Runners - (Fun first)

This isn't the numbers, because I can't read them

this isn't about the numbers, because I can't feel them.

This isn't about the distance, because it still comes back to numbers.

so it must be something else,

it must be something you can't tell me objectively

it must be something you know,

that I know,

that we can share

without words

something you can see in my eye

something that i'll notice on your arms

and the back of your neck

when your hair stands on end

something that i'll see when you can't go any further

something that I'll know because your my friend

I don't care to tell you the distance I've covered

I want to tell you if I had fun

if i felt alive

that's the only metric I'll ever care about

because that's all I ever remember.