Former MAGA activist Jerry Koch joins Dillon and Desimber to share his powerful journey into—and ultimately out of—the MAGA movement. Together, they explore the role of faith, identity, and political culture in shaping beliefs, what prompted Jerry to question his worldview, and how he found a new path grounded in compassion, critical thinking, and service. They also discuss his work with the Leaving MAGA movement what it means to truly change, seek redemption, and find the courage to rethink what we once believed.  

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