Love and Logic is a parenting philosophy that's taken the parenting world by storm, showing adults how to discipline their children without losing their love and respect. Yet in the "real world," we continue to use a punitive (carceral) system to discipline juveniles and adults alike - a system that disproportionately impacts people of color.

Given our recent conversations on intersectionality and the importance of considering policies that are structured to be good for ALL Americans, how do we want to think about a system of accountability that protects ALL children?

We bring you a conversation with Hari Ziyad, author of Black Boy Out of Time, to talk about their own experiences growing up Black and queer in America, and the necessity of prison abolition - not just physical prison, but the mindset of punishment as a method of control.

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What to listen for:

• The pressures put on Black children
• The psychological constructs of imprisonment
• What the concept of abolition might look like and start from
• How each of us might examine how punishment manifests in our own lives

About Hari:

Hari Ziyad is a cultural critic, a screenwriter, and the editor-in-chief of RaceBaitr. They are a 2021 Lambda Literary Fellow, and their writing has been featured in BuzzFeed, Out, the Guardian, Paste magazine, and the academic journal Critical Ethnic Studies, among other publications. Previously they were the managing editor of the Black Youth Project and a script consultant on the television series David Makes Man. Hari spends their all-too-rare free time trying to get their friends to give the latest generation of R & B starlets a chance and attempting to entertain their always very unbothered pit bull mix, Khione.

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