This episode is a bonus cross-post from my conversation about Sentientism with Nick Pendergrast on his Freedom of Species show on the 3CR community radio station based in Melbourne. Nick, who was my guest on Sentientism back on episode 88, turns the tables and asks me what's real, what matters and how to make a better world.

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