This extra to episode 112 features the rest of my conversation with Traditional Custodian of the Martuwarra Fitzroy River, Natalie Davey. We pick up our conversation with a couple minutes more of Natalie’s description of the kinship systems of her Indigenous community. Then we delve into the brilliant story of how Nat and her old man ended up hosting a show on the local First Nations radio station – and some of the enormous benefits stemming from it.

And we go on to what Natalie thinks is needed most right now, some of her fascinating family histories, and why she feels so positive about people.

Title slide: Anthony and Natalie in conversation for this episode, at Nat’s place on the banks of the Martuwarra (pic: Olivia Cheng).

Music:
Stones & Bones, by Owls of the Swamp.

You Shine, by the kids with Tura.

Find more:
You can hear more of Natalie and I in conversation in the main episode: ‘We All Need to Connect: Natalie Davey on protecting the Martuwarra Fitzroy River - and everything else’. You’ll find links in the show notes there too, along with some photos on that episode web page.

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