<div>Alice and Bethany have a whale of a time with the funny, smart Katherine Heiny, author of the new collection Games and Rituals, as well as the novels Standard Deviation and Early Morning Riser. Games and Rituals is out now!</div>

Alice and Bethany have a whale of a time with the funny, smart Katherine Heiny, author of the new collection Games and Rituals, as well as the novels Standard Deviation and Early Morning Riser. Games and Rituals is out now!

113: The lads chat to actual Katherine Heiny

<p>Prolific readers Alice Slater and Bethany Rutter take a literary theme, from ghost stories to crime to fat women, and chat about it for the next 40 minutes.</p>


<p>Follow us on Twitter <a href="https://twitter.com/WhatPagePod">@WhatPagePod</a></p>

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Prolific readers Alice Slater and Bethany Rutter take a literary theme, from ghost stories to crime to fat women, and chat about it for the next 40 minutes. Follow us on Twitter @WhatPagePod

<p>Prolific readers Alice Slater and Bethany Rutter take a literary theme, from ghost stories to crime to fat women, and chat about it for the next 40 minutes.</p>


<p>Follow us on Twitter <a href="https://twitter.com/WhatPagePod" rel="noopener noreferrer">@WhatPagePod</a></p>

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