Barry and James have words with the excellent Rhys Laverty about creationism: young earth, old earth, and points in between. What are the non-negotiables where it comes to interpreting Genesis? Is it important to believe that the days described in Genesis chapter 1 are literal 24 hour days? Does it matter whether or not Adam was a literal person? And what does "ineffable" even mean?

• The Davenant Institute 
• Rhys' Ad Fontes podcast
• Rhys' For Now We See podcast
• Is Genesis History? (Documentary)

Production and music by Cooper & Cary. Opening theme by Roger Taylor, AKA Beyond Our Galaxy.

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