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In this follow-up episode, we continue the conversation on the leadership crisis unfolding in Texas City. TCMPA President Rachel Spahr joins by phone, with board member Lisa Chandler, to shed light on the ongoing fallout with embattled Mayor Dedrick Johnson and the community-driven recall effort now underway.

Lisa brings a board member’s perspective on how the toxic leadership at City Hall has not only fueled mistrust and low morale among officers but has also spilled over into the community’s confidence in its local government. Together, Rachel and Lisa outline the reality of working under a retaliatory mayor-run system, the risks officers face when speaking out, and the urgent push to restore accountability.

Listeners will gain a raw, inside look at how dysfunction at the top erodes public safety, why the recall movement has gained traction, and what true leadership reform must look like for Texas City PD and the community it serves.

This is more than a story about one mayor—it’s about the fight for integrity, stability, and the future of Texas City law enforcement.

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