Kathleen deLaski is the founder and board chair of the Education Design Lab, which works with colleges, states, and employers to design shorter, more targeted forms of higher education. The Lab has pioneered the "micro-pathway" model with community colleges and leads work across the ecosystem to help employers look beyond college degrees to validate skills. Kathleen also founded or co-founded four non profits, some of which serve the K-12 education ecosystem. Before entering the field of education, she worked for several years as a journalist and later became the first woman to serve as spokesperson for the Pentagon.

In this episode, I talk to deLAski about her new book, “Who Needs College Anymore?” and what she’s learned about how students feel about higher education. She identifies four categories of people who need college degrees and four who don't, advocating for micro-pathways and apprenticeships. She also discussed the evolving landscape of higher education and the importance of exposing students to various career pathways.

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