Cooper and Cary have words with fine artist Alastair Gordon about why art matters, and why that would need explaining to us. We also ask: what should Christians make of the artist Tracy Emin? Or religious icons? And what does this have to do with Ferris Bueller?

Watch a longer version of this interview (without jingles if you find them troubling)  on Youtube

Ally's book, Why Art Matters:
Ally's podcast, Faith In The Arts
CS Lewis' essay, Is Theology Poetry? (pdf)

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