This is an informal, monthly conversation with Mike Hackathorn, the other contributor of the Hacka Blog, where we discuss wide-ranging topics.

We had issues with the first part of this recording and I considered not posting it at all but I thought last 18 minutes of it would really help someone out there. So that’s why it sounds like we are joining the middle of a discussion.

You are joining as we begin to talk about how God brings order out of Chaos - in the world and in our lives.

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