Recall This Book

124 The Reeducation of Race with Sonali Thakkar (JP)


Listen Later

NYU professor Sonali Thakkar’s brilliant first book, The Reeducation of Race: Jewishness and the Politics of Antiracism in Postcolonial Thought (Stanford UP, 2023), begins as a mystery of sorts. When and why did the word “equality” get swapped out of the 1950 UNESCO Statement on Race, to be replaced by “educability, plasticity”? She and John sit down to discuss how that switcheroo allowed for a putative anti-racism that nonetheless preserved a sotto voce concept of race.

They discuss the founding years of UNESCO and how it came to be that Jews were defined as the most plastic of races, and “Blackness” came to be seen as a stubbornly un-plastic category. The discussion ranges to include entwinement and interconnectedness, and Edward Said's notion of the "contrapuntal" analysis of the mutual implication of seemingly unrelated historical developments. Sonali's "Recallable Book" shines a spotlight on Aime Cesaire's Discourse on Colonialism--revised in 1955 to reflect ongoing debates about race and plasticity.

Mentioned in the episode:

  • Ama Ata Aidoo, Our Sister Killjoy (1977)
  • Hannah Arendt, "The Crisis in Education" (1954) in Between Past and Future: Eight Exercises in Political Thought ( "the chances that tomorrow will be like yesterday are always overwhelming" )
  • Franz Boas, "Commencement Address at Atlanta University," May 31, 1906 (this is where he says the bit about "the line of cleavage"
  • Franz Boas, Changes in Bodily Form of Descendants of ImmigrantsFinal Report, immigration COmmission (1911)
  • W.E.B. Du Bois, "Color and Democracy: Colonies and Peace," (1945)
  • Frantz Fanon, Black Skin, White Masks (1952)
  • Michel Foucault, "Nietzsche, Genealogy, History"
  • Adom Getachew, Worldmaking After Empire: The Rise and Fall of Self-Determination
  • IHRA definition of Antisemitism.
  • Jerusalem Declaration on Antisemitism.
  • Claude Lévi-Strauss, Race and History (1952)
  • Natasha Levinson, "The Paradox of Natality: Teaching in the Midst of Belatedness," in Hannah Arendt and Education: Renewing our Common World, ed. by Mordechai Gordon (2001)
  • Edward W. Said, Culture and Imperialism (on the contrapuntal)
  • Joseph Slaughter, Human Rights Inc.: The World Novel, Narrative Form, and International Law
  • UNESCO (United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization), 1950 Statement on Race
  • UNESCO, 1951 Statement on the Nature of Race and Race Differences
  • Gary Wilder, Freedom Time: Negritude, Decolonization, and the Future of the World (on the methodological nationalism of postcolonial studies and new approaches that challenge it)

  • Recallable books:

    • Aimé Césaire, Discourse on Colonialism (1950, 1955 rev. ed.)
    • George Eliot, Daniel Deronda (1876)

    • Read and Listen to the episode here.

      Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

      ...more
      View all episodesView all episodes
      Download on the App Store

      Recall This BookBy Elizabeth Ferry and John Plotz

      • 4.7
      • 4.7
      • 4.7
      • 4.7
      • 4.7

      4.7

      29 ratings


      More shows like Recall This Book

      View all
      This American Life by This American Life

      This American Life

      91,047 Listeners

      Radiolab by WNYC Studios

      Radiolab

      43,957 Listeners

      Fresh Air by NPR

      Fresh Air

      38,499 Listeners

      The New Yorker Radio Hour by WNYC Studios and The New Yorker

      The New Yorker Radio Hour

      6,748 Listeners

      99% Invisible by Roman Mars

      99% Invisible

      26,209 Listeners

      The Book Review by The New York Times

      The Book Review

      3,878 Listeners

      The LRB Podcast by The London Review of Books

      The LRB Podcast

      291 Listeners

      Political Gabfest by Slate Podcasts

      Political Gabfest

      8,476 Listeners

      Backlisted by Backlisted

      Backlisted

      596 Listeners

      London Review Bookshop Podcast by London Review Bookshop

      London Review Bookshop Podcast

      129 Listeners

      The TLS Podcast by The TLS

      The TLS Podcast

      185 Listeners

      Why Theory by Why Theory

      Why Theory

      587 Listeners

      Conspirituality by Derek Beres, Matthew Remski, Julian Walker

      Conspirituality

      2,040 Listeners

      The Ezra Klein Show by New York Times Opinion

      The Ezra Klein Show

      16,053 Listeners

      Past Present Future by David Runciman

      Past Present Future

      323 Listeners