Cooper & Cary talk to musician and pastor Jonathan Herring about jazz, why some people really hate it, and what it's got to do with Christianity - and indeed what it may be saying about eternity (depending on how you feel when you're listening to it).

Find out more about The Roots of Jazz.

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