Most have probably seen that illustration of the guy walking away from digging, with diamonds just inches away. He gave up just before hitting it big. The idea of pushing forward versus quitting can be complicated. "Never give up" is not a be-all-end-all.   There could easily be another version of this illustration showing miles of rock with no diamonds at all. He could dig for the rest of his life and never accomplish anything. Maybe the idea of never quitting is more about not giving up on something you believe in just because it's hard.   Even then, you could decide to never quit and dig the wrong hole forever. How do we know when to keep going or quit?   This podcast is also available on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/@busmsk