We're back for another quality (in our opinions) ramble! In this ramble we dive into placidus versus whole sign charts and how placidus is more psychological and whole sign is more external. We also really get into it with reality TV...and somehow relate it to astrology. Mimí brings back the rulership game and Ciera totally won even though she said we're not keeping score....sorry Martha. Join us for an all around good and rambly time!