Joel Stein — quite possibly the best person out there to defend elites — is on the podcast this week! But we don’t like elites, right? Well, don’t check out quite yet. You’re going to want to listen to this conversation. I promise.

Joel Stein is was a staff writer and columnist for Time magazine for two decades. While there, he wrote twenty-two cover stories! Additionally, he was a columnist for Entertainment Weekly and the Los Angeles Times. His first book is called Man Made: A Stupid Quest for Masculinity.

His second book is the reason I asked him to join me on the podcast. It’s called In Defense of Elitism: Why I'm Better Than You and You're Better Than Someone Who Didn't Buy This Book. You should buy his book so you can be as good as I am but not as good as Joel, obviously. Besides, it’s a fantastic book! 

Oh, he taught at Princeton, also. No big deal.

During this chat, we talk about why Trump was elected, what Joel means by elitism and why it needs defending, how to be endlessly curious, the importance of asking lots of questions, what he learned from spending some time in the county that had the highest percentage of Trump voters, and so much more. It was super fun conversation to have and I hope you enjoy listening to it!

Lastly, follow Joel on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram.

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