How to rile a fanbase in 45 minutes? Episode 138 of the On The Ball Norwich City Podcast takes in the best of times and the worst of times as it looks back on the capitulation at home to Leeds United.

NCFCnumbers AKA Steve Sanders is joined by former Canaries head of content Dan Brigham and author Zoe Morgan to sigh wistfully about Daniel Farke, ask where David Wagner might find his Plan B and wonder how Norwich City are capable of conceding so many goals. The trio look back to the future as Norwich City reveal Ben Knapper as the club's next sporting director, react to Todd's truth coming out and look forward to a tough set of fixtures against Middlesbrough and Sunderland to come this week.

Plus Nunez's big secret in his trip to Chile, Captain Canary in goal and hot dog generosity - all packaged up in one podcast!