Here’s a little over 20 additional minutes of ‘offcuts’ from my conversation with Douglas Rushkoff. It features a few of our more personal exchanges. The first seven or eight minutes delves further into the dangerous appeal Douglas is seeing in the thinking of some prominent people. Which leads to exploring some recent experiences of the over-culture in our respective countries, with community-based election successes.

Then we share a few instructive thoughts about respective older mentors, in life and death. And we go out with Douglas offering one of the wisest articulations I’ve heard on being a father in these times.

Title slide image: Douglas Rushkoff.

0.00 Introductions
2.00 The danger in the appeal of some prominent folk
6.15 The value or otherwise of aspiring for exponential change
9.40 Experiencing the over-culture in our respective countries, with community-based election success stories and the ‘consumption thing’ wearing thin
15.15 Some personal exchanges on our respective older mentors
17.00 The universal need for dignity and how it can lead to fascism, or better places
19.00 Being a father in these times – back to polyvagal theory

Music:
Stones & Bones, by Owls of the Swamp.

Find more:
Tune into the main episode: ‘Douglas Rushkoff on surviving the tech billionaire mindset and embodying the over-culture’, with a few links in the show notes too, and a transcript, on the episode web page.

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