Life as a DJ can get a lot more complicated than some people might think because unbeknownst to many, it's not all just pressing buttons all the time. Plenty of thought goes into the process of being a DJ, from the learning to the set-up, before you can actually go out there and call yourself a DJ. Thane Marcus Ringler is joined by a rising DJ and producer, Ken Chen, also more well known by his stage name, DJ Sleeper. They talk about Ken's journey to DJ'ing, and how he uncovers the many layers that music has to offer in what he does. They also go into tennis and its parallels with music, living with heightened senses, and the stories we tell ourselves, and how those narratives ultimately affect us.

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