In another live-recorded episode, Paul and John sit down with Sarah Gray, Head of Zero Emission Vehicle Strategy & Development at Dawsongroup Vans.  

We talk about:

- Falling into the automotive world and never looking back  
- Overcoming redundancy and imposter syndrome with the help of a business coach  
- Supporting fleets on their transition to electric vans  
- The real challenges of productivity and charging infrastructure for commercial EVs  
- Dawson Group’s bold investment in renewable energy, solar canopies, and large-scale charging solutions  
- The importance of confidence-building, collaboration, and thinking outside the box  

Sarah’s passion for helping fleets decarbonise, coupled with her infectious energy, makes this a must-listen for anyone navigating the road to zero-emission transport. And yes, the episode wraps with the EV Café magic wand tradition (or is it a 2 by 4?)

### Sarah Gray (LinkedIn)
https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarah-gray-aa62a92/

### Dawnsongroup Vans
https://www.dawsongroupvans.co.uk