Seth boldly resists the urge to talk about motorcycles, Scott wonders where optimism comes from, and Joel wants to restore the human condition.

Joel Phillips, OG track buddy, joins us to talk about growing up watching WRC and F1, Audi's, getting into tracking as an escape, why he thinks challenge, potential, and restoration are connected, and how he's going to work to bring some healing to the paddock.

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