In this conversation, Madds explores the complexities of relationships, particularly focusing on the importance of recognizing one's worth and the dynamics of feeling fulfilled in romantic partnerships. Using the metaphor of cold water feeling hot when hands are freezing, she emphasizes that just because a relationship is not toxic does not mean it is the best one can have. She encourages listeners to reflect on their relationships, especially during the Venus retrograde, and to seek deeper healing if they find themselves settling for less than they deserve.