In today’s episode, Dr. David Pocta and Hannah DeSouza explore Jacob's complex and spiritually rich life, whose narrative spans from deceit to devotion. Their discussion explores the stages of Jacob's life as he transitions from a self-serving individual to the leader of a nation, drawing parallels to the personal spiritual journeys that many listeners might experience.  

Discover the themes of personal growth, ambition, exile, and seeking divine encounters in Jacob's narrative. Jacob's transformation from a self-centered trickster to a leader who carries the future of a nation on his shoulders may resonate with your quest for spiritual maturity. 

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“He was actually 77 when he left home, which I had no idea. I always pictured this rebellious teenager.” –Hannah DeSouza 

“This image of wrestling or struggle, it's been implicit through the whole story. I mean he's grasping Esau's heel as they emerge from the womb.” – Dr. David Pocta  

“So, there's a rite of passage that happens, that moves us through that struggle and then we come to a humility where we come to appreciate the things that maybe we should have before but didn't.” – Dr. David Pocta 

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Dr. David Pocta 

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