You will hear no presumptions made on this penultimate/not-penultimate On The Ball Norwich City Podcast for 2023/24. That's because the Canaries are nearly in the play-offs but not quite rubber stamped yet - with a 2-2 draw with Swansea at the weekend, along with Hull's draw with Ipswich, meaning that only an eight-goal swing in Hull's favour would see Norwich City drop out of the top six.

Steve Sanders (aka NCFC Numbers), Dan Brigham and Ryan Livermore ensure not to break any mirrors or walk under any ladders, as the panel once again pay homage to the magnificence of Gabriel Sara, try and remember the five shots of Duffy, and at least allow Sydney van Hooijdonk more air time than he gets game time.

Plus, Kenny wins player of the season and immediately slips into apology mode, finding ways to avoid next Saturday's game, and a lot of agonising noises over answers in Ryan Livermore's player-of-the-year quiz.