My guest today is singer and songwriter Hayley Teal.

Hayley’s been a professional musician since her teens — from X Factor and major sync deals to cover bands, TV show bands like Dancing with the Stars and Australian idol, and now releasing her own music fully on her own terms — all while stepping into a brand-new chapter of life as a soon-to-be mum.

We talk real industry life, burnout, songwriting without validation, and why an artist’s legacy matters more than streams.

And she’s got a crazy quarantine story…

Check out Hayley's website here and instagram here.

Hear Hayley's music on Spotify or Apple Music

This conversation was recorded on 28/11/2025

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