In this episode of What the Prophets Say, Matt Johnson is joined by Jonah Wilson and Karyn Stuart for a raw conversation about loving well in grief and leading through a hard season.

We talk honestly about what happens when loss hits, when you still have responsibility, and when you’re trying to hold others while you’re also grieving. Jonah shares why dependency on Jesus is not optional, how prophetic “foreshadowing” can prepare the heart, and why leaders must release the burden of the saviour complex.

Karyn brings wisdom about discipleship, vulnerability, and what it means to let yourself be seen without “leaking” on the people you lead. And the episode closes with prayer and a clear reminder for anyone in grief:

Lay your hands on your heart and remember: you are loved by the Father.