*Special note below on this episode* We talk about a famous pastor of a huge church with a former intern who learned the culture of this church from being on the inside. From staff being required to stand up when this Pastor walks into a room to him being presented in the same light as prophets in the bible, many are left wondering, who is this guy and how can some one be so far off the mark of Jesus’ example? How does he justify his actions? Who are his followers and why are they following? Do the onlookers from the outside just not have the full picture of what’s going on? After hearing about James’ experiences at this church, we speculate about the leader, wonder about who he is behind the scenes and lastly, we make some guesses about his future.*Special note* One of the last questions presented to our guests had to do with "this going viral." The basis of the question was Furtick spontaneously making an "apology video" on his own accord (unrelated to this episode) and that video going viral; not "this Svenzone episode going viral," forcing a PR response. The intent of this episode wasn't soliciting a response, nor are there any lofty ideas of this episode going viral. Podcasting is hard. 

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