When the Church tries to heal what it doesn’t understand, even good intentions can cause real harm. 

In this first conversation of the Do No Harm series, Laurie and licensed therapist Kati Quigley talk about the unseen damage that happens when untrained pastoral or biblical counseling takes the place of trauma-informed care. 

It’s not about blame; it’s about awareness, wisdom, and protecting the people we’re called to love well.

In this episode:

• The difference between spiritual care and clinical therapy
• Why quoting Scripture can backfire for trauma survivors
• What “do no harm” really looks like in ministry
• The emotional fallout when help hurts
• First steps toward safer, trauma-informed spiritual care

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