The Nature of Invisible Things

2.01 Curious Conversations feat. Astrologer & Diviner Jana Barrett


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Welcome, friend, to episode one of Season Two of The Nature of Invisible Things (TNIT)! This season's theme is moving through change, encompassing many different topics. I am thrilled to welcome my friend and fellow astrologer and diviner, Jana Barrett, back to the podcast.

In this episode, we share our experience engaging our emotional flexibility in online and offline spaces to connect with those with different beliefs or viewpoints. We discuss that while curating your online space can be great, it can also be isolating by creating echo chambers that impact our day-to-day offline lives. The content of this episode was inspired by one of Jana’s social posts, which also happened to be something I was contemplating.

We discussed how the tendency to want to ‘win’ in a conversation creates competition rather than mutual understanding. We share some personal experiences experimenting with a more curious and playful approach. Jana also shared some insightful perspectives regarding privilege and how it is a privilege not to engage with folks who believe differently than we do, plus an invitation to look at the motivations behind wanting to close ourselves off.

And, of course, we also meander through some astrology, both personal and collective. We talk about our profection years, retrograde Pluto’s ingress into Capricorn for the last time in our lives, plus a bit about Neptune and projection, and what happens when we give a reading that feels more Uranian, uncomfortable or activating in some way.

Welcome back, Jana!

Jana’s Bio:

Jana Barrett (they/them) is a humanistic & evolutionary astrologer, diviner, writer, activist, and witch based in the so-called Pacific Northwest. They offer 1:1 and group services to support people through courageous transformations. A keen depth explorer, Jana acts as a steady guide through Plutonian times, helping folks alchemize shame into power to rediscover their magic and joy. As a certified Somatic Parts Work practitioner, much of their work centers on reconnection — bringing people into compassionate relationship with the parts of themselves they've forgotten or denied. They see this work as a personal pathway to pleasure and fulfillment, and a stepping stone to collective liberation and healing. You can learn more about their background and offerings at feelingloudly.com, and find them on social @feelingloudly. Jana also offers low-cost monthly events, group readings, and exclusive content through their Patreon.

Follow Jana by checking out all their platforms here.

Other people and resources mentioned in this episode:

Jana’s TNIT episode in Season One

SOVEREIGN — Transformational Self-Leadership for Future Ancestors

Lisa Quigley

Capitolia Eaton

Astrologer Erin Kelley hosts, produces, and edits The Nature of Invisible Things Podcast, which features music by Matthew Jaidev of Audio Soul Healing.

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