Mark Duffield is the chief football writer at The West Australian, Glen Quartermain is the sports editor of The Sunday Times. Coming into round five, they discuss:

Optus Stadium's surface concerns (1:00).

Could veterans be rested from Optus Stadium? (4:26)

Is the bump back (6:34).

When should Aaron Sandilands be rested? (10:30)

The AFL's 'disgraceful' grand final contract (11:46)

Questions (19:58)