While the Inquiry has paused hearing evidence, Kate Lamble spoke in depth to Nick Hurd, a former Minister for Policing and the Fire Service and now the government’s independent advisor on Grenfell. She asked about his experiences while in government immediately after the fire and discussed what the future holds for the tower itself and how to memorialise the site.

Presenter: Kate Lamble

Producers: Sharon Hemans and Kristiina Cooper

Researcher: Marcia Veiga

Studio Mix: Gareth Jones

Editor: Hugh Levinson