In this episode, Matt and Andrew reflect on the events of 2023 and how it shaped their perspectives on neurodiversity and neurodivergence. They discuss the frustrations and investigations they faced in the first quarter of the year, including their involvement in a BBC investigation on ADHD assessments. They also share their experiences of contract termination and the challenges of whistleblowing. As they navigate through April and May, they discuss the launch of their own clinical service and the uncertainty surrounding the airing of the Panorama episode. Overall, they highlight the importance of speaking out and advocating for change in the face of adversity. This part of the conversation covers the challenges of starting a business, balancing personal and professional life, recognition in the ADHD community, backlash from the documentary, involvement in the World Congress, personal backlash and misunderstandings, learning to hold tongue and manage responses, difficulties in running the business, resonating with Andrew's honesty, gaining confidence and using AI for fact-checking, medication shortages and their impact on the ADHD community, considering closing the business, and increasing passion and commitment. In this episode, Andrew Jay and Matt discuss various themes related to personal growth, authenticity, and the importance of understanding different perspectives. Andrew shares his experience of feeling patronized and the frustration of being labeled a victim. They also discuss the significance of strong principles and the need to choose battles wisely. The conversation delves into the nature of truth and the importance of remaining hopeful. Andrew emphasizes the value of taking a step back and approaching situations with grace and open-mindedness. They conclude by highlighting the importance of being comfortable in one's own skin and spreading messages of change and understanding.

00:00 Introduction and Setting the Stage

03:13 January to March 2023: Frustrations and Investigations

13:13 March 2023: Contract Termination and Whistleblowing

18:24 April to May 2023: Uncertainty and Launching the Service

44:36 April to May 2023: Panorama and Divergence

49:05 Challenges of Starting a Business

50:06 Balancing Personal and Professional Life

51:03 Recognition in the ADHD Community

52:34 Maintaining a Low Profile

53:36 Backlash from the Documentary

56:00 Involvement in the World Congress

57:57 Personal Backlash and Misunderstandings

01:01:06 Learning to Hold Tongue and Manage Responses

01:03:17 Difficulties in Running the Business

01:05:09 Building Trust and Honest Conversations

01:09:41 Resonating with Andrew's Honesty

01:12:42 Gaining Confidence and Using AI for Fact-Checking

01:17:28 Medication Shortages and Impact on ADHD Community

01:21:26 Considering Closing the Business

01:26:14 Increasing Passion and Commitment

01:32:28 Impact of Medication Shortages

01:36:18 Feeling Patronized

01:37:09 Being a Victim

01:37:52 Personal Growth and Grounding

01:38:54 Choosing Battles and Adversaries

01:39:52 Strong Principles

01:41:14 The Nature of Truth

01:43:18 Remaining Hopeful

01:44:09 Taking a Step Back

01:44:46 Approaching 2023

01:45:25 Take What You Need and Leave the Rest

01:46:13 Being Comfortable in Your Own Skin

01:47:46 Wanting Things to Change

01:48:29 Evolution of Understanding

01:48:58 Gratitude for Honesty

01:49:55 Spreading the Message

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