Once a year, we get together with our buddy Nick Ruffini of Drummer’s Resource to catch up on developments in our lives, podcasts, and careers.

In this episode, Zack, Matt, and Nick talk about:

* Los Angeles: Nick’s first impressions, Zack’s memories, the good, the bad and the ugly

* Nick’s new company, Revoice Media

* Playing drums vs. other music-related jobs, and how ego and identity plays into that mix

* Insecurity surrounding money

* Matt’s outlook on the Nasvhille scene

* Examples of drummers who had amazing gigs, then took a step back from music to do something different