In this PART 2 episode of The Drum Panel, I’m yet again joined by drummers Gunnar Olsen (Puscifer, Big Data) and Eric Urrea (Marina City) for a deep dive into the internal lives of drummers — the anxiety, the self-doubt, the flow states, and the fears we rarely talk about. 

Today we discuss:

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In this episode, The Drum Panel returns with ME (Ben Hilzinger), alongside my co-host Eric Urrea (Marina City), Gunnar Olsen (Puscifer, Bruce Springsteen, Mother Feather) for a roundtable discussion on all things drum. 

Today we discuss:

'My Name Is Mud' Video - DRUM PICS

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In this episode, The Drum Panel returns with ME (Ben Hilzinger), alongside my co-host Eric Urrea (Marina City), Cain Daniel (Jesus Molina, Derek Hough) for a roundtable discussion on all things drum. 

Today we discuss:

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In this episode, The Drum Panel returns with ME (Ben Hilzinger), alongside my co-host Eric Urrea (Marina City), Max Flanders (Lukas Nelson), and Dean Sinclair (Capital Soirée, Worry Club, Ostin) for a roundtable on the ever-fragile topic of taste.

Today we discuss:

This one is for anyone who's ever questioned their taste, their technique, or their place in the industry. It’s funny, raw, and packed with perspective.

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My guest today is Ari Hoenig — drummer, composer, educator, and all-around wizard behind the kit. Ari is known for his melodic, almost vocal approach to the drums, especially his ability to bend pitch and bring out distinct note choices on the instrument in a way that sounds nearly impossible. He’s collaborated with artists like Chris Potter, Kurt Rosenwinkel, Joshua Redman, and many others, but it’s his own solo work that really puts a spotlight on his creative spirit.

In this episode, Ari walks through five records that helped shape his unique voice — from the expressive swing of Papa Jo Jones to the unconventional phrasing of Thelonious Monk. We also dive into Ari’s early classical roots, why Keith Jarrett changed his musical DNA, and how he began developing his signature melodic drumming approach.

Hope you enjoy the five records that shaped Ari Hoenig into the deeply expressive and fiercely original musician he is today.

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ARI'S BIG FAT FIVE:

Artist – Keith Jarrett
Album – Belonging
Release Year – 1974
Key Track – "Spiral Dance"
Drummer – Jon Christensen

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Artist – Jo Jones
Album – The Jo Jones Trio: The Everest Years
Release Year – 1959
Key Track – "Philadelphia Bound"
Drummer – Jo Jones

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Artist – Kenny Garrett
Album – Trilogy
Release Year – 1995
Key Track – "Wayne's Thing"
Drummer – Brian Blade

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Artist – Miles Davis
Album – Nefertiti
Release Year – 1968
Key Track – "Nefertiti"
Drummer – Tony Williams

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Artist – Thelonious Monk
Album – Monk's Dream
Release Year – 1963
Key Track – "Monk's Dream"
Drummer – Frankie Dunlop

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This week’s guest is Billy Martin ... a world-renowned drummer, educator, visual artist, producer, and author. He has collaborated with some of the best, including (but certainly not limited to) John Scofield, John Zorn, Iggy Pop, Natalie Merchant, Flea and many more. Still, many people know him best for his work with Medeski, Martin & Wood, alongside John Medeski and Chris Wood. If you enjoy this episode, please go check out Billy’s interview with Mike Dawson on the Drum Candy podcast titled “Improvising and Cultivating a Creative Mindset”.

I recently re-watched his anti-instructional film, Life on Drums, and I can’t recommend it enough. It's essentially a series of conversations between Martin and his first drum teacher, Allen Herman. These discussions delve into topics such as soloing, time, tone, phrasing, free playing, and so much more. Interspersed throughout are some pretty rad solo and duet performances…all filmed with a cinematic aesthetic. So check that out if that interests you. 

Right off the bat, we dive into the topic of soloing — something Billy encourages all drummers to do first thing when they sit behind the kit (even if just for five minutes), before jumping into the records that shaped him into the remarkable musician he is today.

BILLY'S BIG FAT FIVE:

Artist - Peter Tosh
Album - Legalize It
Release Year - 1976
Key Track - "Legalize it"
Drummer - Carlton "Santa" Davis, Carlton Barrett

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Artist - Stevie Wonder
Album - Talking Book
Release Year - 1972
Key Track - "Superstition"
Drummer - Stevie Wonder

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Artist - Dr. John
Album - Gris Gris
Release Year - 1968
Key Track - "Mama Roux"
Drummer - John Boudreaux

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Artist - John Coltrane
Album - Interstellar Space
Release Year - 1974
Key Track - "Jupiter Variation"
Drummer - Rashied Ali

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Artist - Charles Mingus
Album - Mingus Ah Um
Release Year - 1959
Key Track - "Better Git It In Your Soul"
Drummer - Dannie Richmond

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Artist - Lil' Kim
Album - Hard Core
Release Year - 1996
Key Track - "Queen Bitch"

Artist - Wu-Tang Clan
Album - Enter The Wu-Tang (36 Chambers)
Release Year - 1993
Key Track - "Wu-Tang: 7th Chamber - Part II - Conclusion"
Drummer - RZA (producer / beat maker)

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Drummers on Drumming (the book) takes you inside the stories, records, and moments that shaped some of the world’s greatest drummers. Built on the Big Fat Five format of digging into top influences, it’s packed with candid interviews and personal insights. Whether you’re just starting out or have been playing for years, this book is here to inspire you to sharpen your skills and find your own voice behind the kit.

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Welcome back to Drummers on Drumming, powered by Big Fat Snare Drum.

In this part two episode, I continue my deep-dive chat with co-host Eric Urrea (Marina City) — picking up right where last week’s marathon conversation left off.

Today we discuss:

We open up about imposter syndrome, ADHD, burnout, and what it really takes to balance creativity with professionalism.

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Welcome back to Drummers on Drumming, powered by Big Fat Snare Drum.

In this episode of The Drum Panel, I’m joined by my co-host Eric Urrea (Marina City) for a laid-back but honest conversation about drumming, the music industry, self-worth, and everything in between.

We had originally planned to bring on a guest, but when that fell through, we decided to just catch up and hit record—which, honestly, ended up being exactly what we needed.

Today we discuss:

A belief we both held about drumming early on that we’ve since let go of.

Why learning kick drum patterns is my first step when tackling new material.

The very real anxiety of walking into a new gig and playing in front of a band for the first time.

Our approach to charting vs. memorizing—and why it changes depending on the situation.

Whether drummers deserve songwriting credit and how we navigate that conversation.

The difference between publishing and master rights, and what every drummer should understand about the business.

Our evolving definitions of “making it” as working musicians.

How our instruments can feel like both a source of pride and frustration—and how that ties into self-worth.

The constant push-pull between confidence and impostor syndrome, and how we deal with it.

If you’re navigating your own creative path, juggling multiple projects, or just trying to stay inspired through the ups and downs, I think this episode will hit home.

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Welcome back to Drummers on Drumming, powered by Big Fat Snare Drum. In this episode of The Drum Panel, host Ben Hilzinger is joined by Sterling Laws and Fred Eltringham for an insightful roundtable on all things DRUM.

Meet the Panelists:

Sterling Laws: Grammy-nominated drummer from the Pacific Northwest, now based in Los Angeles, known for collaborations with Olivia Rodrigo, Kim Gordon, and more.

Fred Eltringham: Nashville-based drummer, a mainstay with Sheryl Crow since 2012, with credits including The Wallflowers, The Chicks, and kd lang.

In today's episode, we discuss:

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Welcome back to Drummers on Drumming…a podcast powered by Big Fat Snare Drum.

I’m back with another installed of Big Fat Five — a segment of the podcast where we dive into the five records that shaped the way great drummers approach their craft.

My name is Ben Hilzinger and today’s guest is someone whose playing and educational work has impacted me personally in a big way. David Garibaldi is not only the legendary drummer of Tower of Power, but his book Future Sounds has been one of my go-to practice tools ever since my good friend Sarab Singh first turned me onto it. In this conversation, David shares the five records that shaped his unmistakable sound and approach to rhythm. I’m so honored to have him on — let’s get into it. I hope you enjoy my chat with David Garibaldi. Cheers!

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Drummers on Drumming (the book) takes you inside the stories, records, and moments that shaped some of the world’s greatest drummers. Built on the Big Fat Five format of digging into top influences, it’s packed with candid interviews and personal insights. Whether you’re just starting out or have been playing for years, this book is here to inspire you to sharpen your skills and find your own voice behind the kit.

DAVID'S BIG FAT FIVE:

Artist - Count Basie

Album - Breakfast Dance and Barbeque

Release Year - 1959

Drummer - Sonny Payne

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Artist - Sly & The Family Stone

Album - Whole New Thing

Release Year - 1967

Key Track(s) "Underdog," "If This Room Could Talk"

Drummer - Greg Errico

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Artist - Aretha Franklin

Album - Aretha Live @ The Fillmore West

Release Year - 1971

Drummer - Bernard Purdie

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Artist - The Meters

Album - Look-Ka Py Py

Release Year - 1969

Key Track(s) "Looka-Py-Py," "Rigor Mortis"

Drummer - Joseph "Zigaboo" Modeliste

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Artist - James Brown

Single - "I Got The Feelin'"

Release Year - 1968

Drummer - Clyde Stubblefield

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HONORABLE MENTIONS:

Artist - Maceo & All The King's Men

Album - Doing Their Own Thing

Release Year - 1970

Drummer - Melvin Parker

Maceo Parker

Album - Made By Maceo

Release Year - 2003

Drummer - Jamal Thomas

Artist - Ray Barretto

Album - Que Viva La Musica

Release Year - 1972

Key Track - Alafia Cumaye

Timbales - Orestes Vilato 

Artist - Herbie Hancock

Album - Maiden Voyage

Key Track - Maiden Voyage

Release Year - 1965

Drummer - Tony Williams

Artist - Miles Davis

Album - Four and More

Release Year - 1966 (Recorded in 1964)

Drummer - Tony Williams

Elvin Jones...all his recordings...(especially McCoy Tyner's album Inception)

...and MANY more...

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