In this conversation, Nole and Kevin explore various aspects of firefighting and emergency services, including the unexpected emotional labor involved, communication challenges, cultural sensitivity, and the myths surrounding the profession. They also discuss the balance between work and family life, as well as the challenges of career growth and leadership opportunities within the fire service. They discuss the necessity of taking action in crisis situations, the value of maintaining a positive attitude, and the importance of leadership. The conversation also highlights the significance of assimilating into the fire culture and honoring its traditions, as well as the importance of selflessness and thinking of others in their line of work.

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Big thank you to My Epic and Facedown Records for the use of their song "Hail" in our podcast!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dz2RZThURTU&ab_channel=FacedownRecords

What Doesn't Kill Us - Book

Biola Lent Project 2025

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Ranger Beads or "Pace Counters" 

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The Fire Up Progam video.
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Kevin's Instagram.
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Nole's Instagram.
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