Family man, Underoath’s Electronics guy, and successful entrepreneur, Dudley catches us up on some of his life. Chris still goes to church, he’s a virtual reality enthusiast, and like many of us, has to be careful with his eating. (Interview at 24 min mark). 

Before Chris joins the show, Natalie laments on how Kanye West’s gospel album broke her heart in to teeny tiny, little pieces. 

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