Jerry Ratcliffe interviews Dr. Robert Schug, a neuro criminologist and clinical psychologist, about the real science behind serial killer research. They discuss the misconceptions surrounding serial killers, the difference between serial, spree, and mass killers, and the need for more scientific research in this field. Dr. Schug also talks about his work interviewing serial killers and the importance of approaching them as humans rather than monsters. He emphasizes the potential for identifying and intervening with individuals who exhibit patterns of risk factors before they become violent.