In this episode, we get to meet Nika Danilova, aka Zola Jesus. Nika and I discuss each of her studio albums, from her debut up to a highly collaborative album she was supposed to be working on in 2020 that got delayed due to the pandemic. We also discuss her intensely personal songwriting style, her relationship with her past work, her love of pop music, the toxicity of fandoms, and more. We even touch upon her light obsession with John Cena. Please enjoy, and thank you for listening.