In 2021 a new alliance between the United States, Australia and the United Kingdom was announced. Dubbed the AUKUS agreement, the centrepiece of the plan was for the United States to build Australia new nuclear submarines, to replace its aging fleet. Now almost three years later, the plan has evolved, and with it, inevitably has the budget expectations and the criticisms.

Guest: Professor Peter Dean (Director of Foreign Policy and Defence, United States Studies Centre, University of Sydney)

Recorded 28th March, 2024.